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Cover of Géa Book One - cover and book illustrations by Baptista
Géa is a twelve 250-page book volume (312 pages/volume in the Illustrated Version) and a 1,000 page dictionary written, illustrated and self-published by Cláudio César Dias Baptista.[1]
With a 30,000 words vocabulary and a 1,000 page dictionary included, the accuracy of the Portuguese language in the twelve volume book and the story makes "Géa" one of the important and relevant books for all Portuguese reading countries. Also contributes for the importance and the relevance of the opus the 744 illustrations created by own CCDB in 3D, which are included in "Géa". The presence of a 1,000 pages dictionary with 30,000 words (the Book Thirteen of Géa) is, by itself, an evidence or the importance and the relevance of "Géa". The text of Géa took ten years of full-time work, including holidays, to be written.
Géa is mentioned in several articles, some with access via Internet, some not. These articles include: *Reportagem no Jornal da Tarde;[2] *Reportagem na Revista Trip;[3] *Reportagem de Marcos Toledo no Jornal do Commércio de Recife;[4] *Reportagem na Revista Viceland;[5] *Reportagem in Jornal da Cidade;[6] *Artigo no Jornal Últimas Notícias;[7] *Reportagem no site Wiplash.[8]
Contents
1 Synopsis
1.1 Extraterrestrials and Terrestrials
1.2 Extraterrestrial Languages
1.3 Cover
1.4 Bio-relativity
1.5 The Ionomag
2 Géa - Citations and Notability
2.1 Criticisms
3 Illustrations of the opus Géa
4 Statistics of the work "Géa"
5 Géa - Main Characters
6 Music Composed for the opus "Géa"
7 Films about Géa
8 Other CCDB Books
9 References
10 External links
[edit] 1 Synopsis
Among several stories, "Géa" tells the history of Clausar, a mystic in his search for Light, in his voyages among the stars and beyond. It also tells the story of his search for Ansata, the greatest dancer in the Universe, who unbeknownst to him was his daughter Ky, who was taken from him when she was two years-old. Clausar becomes infatuated when he sees her dancing in a theatre on his planet and in his search for her, he discovers a Mystical Order, with the power to bring him to outer space in his search for Ansata. Travelling through the solar systems of the Telaria Constellation, one of the stars in that constelation, Delta Telariae (in the extraterrestrian language, which is the Sun). In the planet Tridelta (Earth) he finally reaches Ansata and discovers that she is his daughter. Ky.
There are described mystic experiments of Clausar which are in fact the ones of Baptista. There are also inventions, that are described in the book, which could work if created in laboratories, such as the "Ionomag", an ionic and magnetic propeller.
What characterizes "Géa" is its sonority, Baptista's dedication to sound and music led him to create an opus which contains real metrified and formatted poetry, though it mainly contains prose; and its prose in many places (where the sentiment suggests) subtlely changes to poetry, to which the ear habituates itself and the Reader doesn't note that he/she is reading already metrified and very sonorous poetry.
[edit] 1.1 Extraterrestrials and Terrestrials
The presence of extraterrestrials in opus "Géa" helps the author to present and discuss difficult themes about prejudice, mania and others, creating examples and allegories which, if shown in terrestrial environment could be misunderstood. In despite of that, "Géa" contains copious scenes which happen in Earth and present terrestrial characters also.
[edit] 1.2 Extraterrestrial Languages
Baptista created a whole extraterrestrial language, named "Teruzês" (from the country "Teruz", planet "Géa"). The terms in teruzês appear progressively in the twelve books of "Géa" and the reader learn them, because of the way they are presented. But Baptista included a Glossary of that extraterrestrial language in the Book Thirteen, for consult and detailed explanation. The author is working in an on-line version of the same dictionary, with cross-references, to help the on-line reading. There are some other extraterrestrial languages in the opus "Géa", but with less words, all of them included in the Book Thirteen. Two of the musical compositions Baptista and his brother Sérgio Dias created for the book Géa have lyrics composed by Baptista in the Teruzês language. The main purpose of the Book Thirteen, however, is not teach the extraterrestrian languages - the major part and the largest number of pages of that dictionary are entries for the Portugese Language, where the acceptation of the words in the author's perspective and the connotations he gives for them are precisely defined. The Book Thirteen (gossary-dictionary) has one thousand pages due to the very small font and margins; in fact, it has more characters (letters) than the whole twelve text books of "Géa" (with their normal characters and margins) summed up together.
[edit] 1.3 Cover
The cover of the book Géa presented in this page is of "Livro Primeiro" (Book One). The image, created by Baptista, is a fractal and symbolizes the Fractal universe (as conceived by the author and not based in theories from other persons), which is finite AND infinite at the same time, surpassing the human logic. In the center of the image there is a black zone, which represents the "Absolute Nothing", where, as in the whole Universe (and, paradoxally and contradictorily, surpassing again the human logic) and in despite of that "nothing" the "Géa" is present. "Géa" is not only the name of a planet and of the book, but mainly the Essence of all essences, the name of the feminine part of the One, which masculine part is Géo (God). The spectrum of colors in the cover of Book One also symbolize the coexistence of creeds, sexes, races and species in the Cosmos.
[edit] 1.4 Bio-relativity
In the opus "Géa", CCDB presents the "bio-relativity" (biorrelatividade) as a theory of his protagonist named Clausar. Where "bio" is for "life" and "relativity" has not the acceptation as in the Einstein theories, but signifies "relationship between living beings".
The bio-relativity says that everything in the Universe is alive, including elementary particles, atoms, molecules, cells and multicellular organisms. When, recently (many years after "Géa" was written and registered), scientists synthesized a cell, they didn't created "life", because life already exists in the elements which were utilized to produce that cell.
Bio-relativity says that the main purpose of all entities (all above, including particles) is "to relate more for exist more".
To relate is "good"; to "unrelate" (desrelacionar) is bad. For example: a man and a woman relates one with the other and produces a baby: That's good, because augments the relationships in the Universe - which causes happyness. Somebody kills the baby: That's bad because reduces the existing relationships - which causes sadness.
From bio-relativity it's possible to extract (and the author does extracts) a new ethics: Beings who relates more are more valuable than beings who relates less - that's why humans kill vegetables and animals to eat with not so great consternation as when killing other humans.
The author allerts against bad using of the concept of bio-relativity when applied to human beings - there are not any superiority of race, creed, etc. suggested in bio-relativity.
The concept is useful in creating better scales of values for determining responsibilities, degrees in schools and hierarchy in any group or enterprise. And bio-relativity is also good for philosophers to think about.
The bio-relativity says that even the elementary particles have "will": The will of relate more to exist more. So, the bio-relativity augments (not colliding with) the Darwin Theory of Evolution, accepting something more than "chance" (acaso) to promote the evolution of beings. The "will" in particles is "to relate more" in form of attraction or repulsion; the "will" in the cell is to relate more with the Universe - that's the cause for the development of the senses, as vision, earing, and others and the specialization of cells in the multicellular organisms; the will in human beings everybody knows (I hope...) what is.
The possible nonsense of the words "to exist more" is also discuted in opus "Géa".
The bio-relativity also explains, in another way, added to the Darwin's theory (but including "chance" as one of the ways), why a butterfly can produce the image of an owl - and not the image of a politician... in his wings; why the cobra can produce an specific poison to kill the prey; and how the bee and the flower adapts themselves to each other.
[edit] 1.5 The Ionomag
Ionomag is the name of the ionic and magnetic propeller invented by Baptista and completely described in "Géa", including 3D drawings. The Ionomag is not only credible, as the propellers you see in books and movies, but rather a complete invention, which may work if tested in the laboratory. If the principles of Inomag work after being tested, the products resulting therefrom will be useful for flight, weapons and sound transducers. In the book "Gea" the Ionomag is presented in these and other functions that add vivid and convincing realism to the story.
[edit] 2 Géa - Citations and Notability
1 - REPORTING OF GEORGIA HADDAD NICOLAU, PUBLISHED IN Jornal da Tarde, Caderno Variedades, Seção Perfil, in August 31, 2007 - In the same way it did in adolescence, when they lock in his room to concentrate on electronic creations, Cláudio is dedicated to Géa with commitment and passion. So much that he sold everything he had in his home, city district of Laranjeiras, Rio de Janeiro, where he kept a shop electronics craft and where he drew a reasonable income. He reunited with his wife (Dalgiza) and son Rafael, now 24 years old, and decided come together in "Mission Géa".
2 - REPORTING IN REVISTA TRIP (see link for it in the "External Links", below) - Or Cláudio César Dias Baptista, as history spellings when recognize him as the author of the greatest work ever written. Gea: 13 volumes, 1,400 characters.
3 - REPORTING OF MARCOS TOLEDO IN JORNAL DO COMMÉRCIO DE Recife, February 26, 2007 - "The genius behind the Mutantes", considered by experts one of the biggest names in the history of audio brasileiro Cláudio César Dias Baptista dropped out of music 1994 to write "Géa", work in 13 volumes that blends experience mysticism, science fiction, philosophy, technology and discussions on genetics, among other topics.
4 - REPORTING IN THE SITE VICELAND (see link for it in the "External Links", below) - If you read the first part of an interview with Cláudio César Dias Baptista, knows what to expect this second. If not, can you please go back and withdraw the work of Robert Anton Wilson[9] Brazilian - and advantage and also takes a look at his site. Read the rest at Vice Magazine: CCDB - Vice BR
5 - REPORTING IN JORNAL DA CIDADE DE Rio Claro (see link for it in the "External Links", below) - Cláudio César Dias Baptista left the music creation and started writing, devoting himself to Géa, where tells the story of Clausar, an alien from planet Géa in search for Light. Science fiction, drama, politics, sex and spirituality blend in 12 volumes (over 13 with a glossary and cross references).
6 - ARTICLE IN THE JOURNAL ÚLTIMAS NOTÍCIAS - NOVA IMPRENSA (City of Formiga - Minas Gerais) - 23-07-2009 - Brazilian leaves brilliant career in luteria; audio and electronics, spends ten years of writing twenty-seven books in Portuguese and one more in English, he illustrates each book with sixty-two 3D panels; surpasses double the lexicon of all the works of Shakespeare; exceeds by six times in the lexicon of Camões Os Lusíadas; is record world with 903 verbs, without repeating a single verb, in a chapter of 21 pages.
7 - ARTICLE IN THE SITE WHIPLASH (see link for it in the "External Links", below) - Besides the ten years employed in the storage and confront "Géa" forced author to abstain from much of reality, the donation would not be found through the holy grail, "Géa" would have to be drudgery daily and finally achieved not only through intuition and sensitivity, these intangible resources would have to be overcome for great redemption without the universe lose its balance ... Clausar, main character in "Gea" is as human as us and not stubbornly breaks free of this condition during the adventure to reach its ideal or attend the Voice. Subtitle "IMAGE": Among the final transposition and almost end reality will tip the balance between good and evil, the actions of Clausar will be the balance. No great powers only with accessories, it will challenge the gods instead to venerate them. The stories of "Géa" occur in various planes, Clausar is carefully observed by the Being of Light, which appears "en passant" in the chapter "The Being of Light", as if the character had no connection with history. But it has. And lots. To know how, and how this affects the life of Clausar and is affected by this, even just reading "Géa" to know the experience of Clausar with Geárion (the name of the Being of Light).
[edit] 2.1 Criticisms
Until now, all the articles and reportings about "Géa" applaud the opus. The author invites[10] in his site all the speciallists to produce criticisms. In the author's site there is the page "Opiniões sobre Géa" (Opinions about "Géa")[11] where the opinions about "Géa" are already published (in Portuguese and English) and where he promisses to publish all serious criticisms, favourable or not. There are other pages in the same site with opinions about the other books of the author.
[edit] 3 Illustrations of the opus Géa
The author of "Géa" is also an 3D Computer Graphics illustrator. He created all the 13 covers and 744 illustrations for the book. Here are seen three examples of these illustrations.
Ky captured by Clausar inspired in Bernini's The Rape of Proserpina.
The old warrior Alfos in command of his Quadriga.
The starship Altaré departs from the Sun and the Earth.
[edit] 4 Statistics of the work "Géa"
Lexicon: 30,000 different words.
Characters (personages): 1,267.
Starships (each group or fleet counts only one): 78.
Musics and songs mentioned and suggested as Leitmotif for characters and scenes: 204.
Movies mentioned and suggested: 123.
Characters (letters): 9,585,256.
Words: 1,740,090.
Phrases: 128,453.
Paragraphs: 44,976.
Adages (proverbs): more than in Miguel de Cervantes's Don Quixote - and all of CCDB's authorship.
Years of work: 10.
Hours of work (eight hours per day, including holidays): 29,200.
Number of books (including the dictionary): 13.
Number of pages (Illustrated Version): 4,744.
Number of pages (Only text Version): 4,000.
Pages written each day (average): 1.09 (near one page/day).
Illustrations inside the books (all created by CCDB in 3D Computer Graphics) during several years after the ten spent in writing Géa: 744.
Covers (all created by CCDB) - the back covers are the same as the front covers: 13.
Number of non-repeated verbs in a single chapter (Chapter "Nu", with 21 pages): 903 - there is no verb repeated in that chapter.
Internet: all the twelve text books and the dictionary (Book Thirteen) were written without any consult to Internet - the author had not an Internet connection during the writing of "Géa".
[edit] 5 Géa - Main Characters
The total number of characters in the whole opera of CCDB is 3,455. Géa has 1,267 characters,;[12] among them:
Clausar, from planet Géa, reached the stars in the search for Ansata.
Gia, Clausar's wife (inspired in the author's Muse, his wife Dalgiza Borges), appeared to him in Árion Beach (Praia do Árion).
Rá, son of Clausar and Gia, dived in the star which has his name and reached its nucleus with a smal and powerful starship.
Ky, Clausar's first marriage daughter, is the greatest ballerina of the Universe.
Nysio Degan is a partner dancer, in love with Ky, but she thinks only in dance until she meets Clausar.
Sérias, youngest Clausar's brother, subjugated the Penta Ro Bolinei planet with the sound of his "Etérila de Soládio".
Ardo, second Clausar's brother, is a great musician.
Ra-El, best friend of Clausar and fighter starship pilot.
Atlantes is the musical group created by Clausar and Ra-El, where Sérias, Ardo and Ree play.
Geárion is one of the Beings of Light.
Tóxia is the "telária of the lethal poison" and resembles a smal spider.
Posenk is the bio-computer who acquired life.
Talia is the girl of Rá's dreams.
Terrar is the terrestrian.
Ormasde is the bio-computer that Terrar married, she is a walking fashion show.
Octopodeimos, captain of the "aracnopólipos" battle starship Ventura 555, swore to kill Clausar.
Alfos is the old champion of the "monoceros" charriots, also captain of the Galactic Fraternity's Flagship Zero Espira Zero.
Umglad, powerful son of Alfos, champion in the "motoquadriga" duels; sustain four turbines with one arm, the whip in the other.
Artrus is the Being of Light who let himself and his species die because he was too good to kill their enemy.
Pa, the "pajé" (witchdoctor), could live forever in the same body, remembers his past incarnations and prefer to die and evolve.
Arqueu learned with Pa how to live 40,000 years in the same body to save his wife, Almé, prisoner of time in radioactive sand.
Almé waits 40,000 years for Arqueu, who meditated her rescue 3,000 years sitting in front of a sequoia seed seeing it grow.
Ars, hurt by misunderstanding, pulled the sheets of his epic, released them from the promontory folded as aircraft and jumped.
The people of the planet of Ars not hailed him as the greatest poet of the universe, that he was, yes, as the inventor of the airplane.
Intáctia, skin blue, Magna Vestal, Queen of Bipsicas, commands the flagship Altaré under attack from pirates of the Trigonodon.
The Bipsicas, awaiting the males of their species live again, have eternal life until they surrender to the love of aliens.
Géd and Fót, two photons, meet and talk about the hope to produce image during their trip from a star into the eye of an "elasto".
Oég is the Death.
Géa is the feminine half of the One - She only appears in the final chapter.
Géo (God) is the masculine part of the One and appears in the final chapter.
[edit] 6 Music Composed for the opus "Géa"
The musics and songs are composed by Cláudio César Dias Baptista, Sérgio Dias and other authors in honor to the work "Géa".
Tema de Géa (Theme of Géa) - Music: Sérgio Dias, Lyrics: Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Tema dos Seres de Luz (Theme of the Beings of Light) - Music, Lyrics and Recording by Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Tema dos Seres Sapientes (Theme of the Sapient Beings) - Music, Lyrics and Recording by Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Tema dos Seres Submétricos (Theme of the Submetric Beings) - Music and Recording by Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Tema das Partículas Subatômicas Viventes (Theme of the Living Subatomic Particles) - Music and Recording by Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Uma Canção Para Ars (A Song for Ars) - Music and Voice by Bruno Tavares, Lyrics by Cláudio César Dias Baptista
Potencial (Potential) - Music by Marconi Ricciardi
Em Géa (In Géa) - Music and Voice by Bruno Tavares
Géa (Géa) - Music and Guitar by Marcelo Frey
[edit] 7 Films about Géa
"Géa" have already musics and songs composed to it, mentioned above. Because of the rich material and the potential of the written opus for the production of several feature films, the author anticipates suggestions for movie scripts that could be produced based on the histories of "Géa".[13]
[edit] 8 Other CCDB Books
)que( (2003), sci-fi - one volume with 310 pages.
CCDB - Gravação Profissional (2005–2011) technical book about audio recording in co-authorship with his son Rafael Borges Dias Baptista - RDB - one volume with 1,010 pages.
Geínha (2006) twelve 250 pages volumes, for Children and Youth.
We, Mutantes (2006) history and fantasy from insider perspective of Os Mutantes group - one volume with 500 pages.
[edit] 9 References
^ "Cláudio César Dias Baptista". Retrieved 19 May 2011.
^ Reportagem de Georgia Haddad Nicolau, publicada no Jornal da Tarde, Caderno Variedades, Seção Perfil, em 31 de Agosto de 2007
^ "Reportagem na Revista Trip". Retrieved 19 May 2011.
^ ; *Reportagem de Marcos Toledo no Jornal do Commércio de Recife de 26-02-2007 - "The genius behind the Mutantes"
^ "Reportagem na Revista Viceland". Retrieved 21 May 2011.
^ "Reportagem no Jornal da Cidade". Retrieved 21 May 2011.
^ Artigo no jornal Últimas Noticias - Nova Imprensa (de Formiga - Minas Gerais) - 23-07-2009"
^ "Reportagem no site Wiplash". Retrieved 21 May 2011.
^ Although the reporting says that Baptista is the Robert Anton Wilson Brazilian, in fact the true is exactly the contrary: Cláudio César Dias Baptista affirm he knows God by mystical experience and, so, at least one Absolute Truth. In the Introduction of "Géa", Baptista asks to do not call him 'the new (or the Brazilian) this or that author and "Géa" the new (or the Brazilian) this or that book'. In his site Baptista asks to do not put labels on him and says that a mystic, by his/her nature, have personal and unic experiences, which don't fit in any "ismo" (ism). The only association which can perhaps be imagined between the two persons, Baptista and Wilson, is their multidisciplinary work.
^ "CCDB, his books and his purpose - with invitation for experts to produce their criticisms". Retrieved 22 May 2011.
^ "Opinions about "Géa"". Retrieved 22 May 2011.
^ "Ando meio desligado. Por Bruno Torturra Nogueira". Retrieved 2010-06-17.
^ "When Géa is filmed - author's suggestions for movies based on stories told in "Géa".". Retrieved 30 May 2011.
You may find references to Cláudio César Dias Baptista in English Wikipedia also here: Clarisse Leite, Os Mutantes (album), Os Mutantes, Arnaldo Baptista, Sérgio Dias and Rita Lee.
[edit] 10 External links
(Portuguese) (English) Official site
http://whiplash.net/materias/opinioes/000575-mutantes.html
http://revistatrip.uol.com.br/155/desplugados/01.htm
http://www.viceland.com/blogs/br/tag/ccdb/
http://www.bymk.com.br/usuarios/ccdb
http://fudeus.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/ando-meio-desligado/
http://audiolist.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2653
http://www.rockemgeral.com.br/2008/02/14/primeiro-mutante-claudio-cesar-dias-baptista-trabalha-duro-como-escritor-e-luta-para-ver-seus-livros-publicados/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cl%C3%A1udio-C%C3%A9sar-Dias-Baptista/171483659539558
http://blog.guitarlick.com.br/2009/06/04/falando-em-memoria/
http://www.pierdeipanema.com.br/en/node/95
http://sinistersaladmusikal.wordpress.com/category/mutantes/
http://acervodorockroll.blogspot.com/2009/01/os-mutantes.html
http://www.muzplay.net/musica/os-mutantes
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/arnaldo-p324276
http://www.lastfm.com.br/music/O'seis
http://www.dynamiteinfo.com.br/portal/view_coluna_antiga.cfm?materia=780
http://www.red.unb.br/index.php/emtempos/article/viewFile/3355/2933
http://agoraerock.forumeiros.com/t305-pre-mutantes-o-seis-1966
http://www.htforum.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-16872.html
http://www.tocastudio.com.br/index2.html
http://www.somaovivo.mus.br/download.php?acao=pesq1
http://www.odegrau.com/mutantes.html
http://www.blogar.com.br/pass/2003/06/index.html
http://ouniversomusical.blogspot.com/2009/12/os-mutantes.html
http://teen.ibge.gov.br/ibgeteen/datas/rock/curiosidades.html
http://rocknhome.net/v1/index.php?page=verartigo&id=360
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2699346-a-divina-com-dia-dos-mutantes
http://www.torres-rs.tv/site/pags/almanaque2.php?id=183
(English) http://musicabrasileira.org/mutantes/
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Contents
1 Twice the lexicon of William Shakespeare
2 Contested deletion
3 Contested deletion
4 Contested deletion
5 Contested deletion
[edit] 1 Twice the lexicon of William Shakespeare
Cláudio César Dias Baptista, in opus Géa, has twice the lexicon of William Shakespeare's whole opera. That information could be seen in the page Cláudio César Dias Baptista but was deleted by Antiuser, with nonsense allegations and the page was semi-protected. You can see proof about Shakespeare's lexicon in the enter "Léxicon" of the Dicionário Aurélio and in the own book that is mentioned in that enter. Of course you can also discover by yourself how many words William Shakespeare utilized in his whole opera and compare it with the vocabulary present in Géa! Then you will see the Truth by yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.6.117 (talk) 12:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
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This page should not be speedy deleted because I ask you the following: *For your meditation, Administrators of English Wikipedia. I know the En Wiki has rules. These rules are valuable and the fruit of long-term work of its members, without forgetting its founders, Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger. Herself Wikipedia and every page that it contains have behind its creation and its existence the human impulse to friendship, excitement, enthusiasm. Who would create a page to present something that is not emotional, not something to which this value (and value is the result of emotion, not only reason)? Who would create a virtual encyclopedia without this magnificent engine that is the emotion? So if there is a page Cláudio César Dias Baptista and a page Géa on En Wiki, that's because there is enough emotion in people who created those pages; It's because that emotion and reason and objectivity emerged and turned the pages into reality. For the same reason, emotion, friendship, people find themselves inducted as members of the En Wiki devoted admiration and respect for Cláudio César Dias Baptista and his work, both as a specialist in audio and as a writer of Géa and several other books. These people, in launching these pages and their reasons for their entries here to ask for not deletion are not a 'party' politics, have no commercial interest or personal, but have that emotion and friendship and the respect and admiration for the writer and the work. For all that I ask the respected members of the Administration of English Wikipedia, the ones who will reach the consensus on whether or not erase the pages Cláudio César Dias Baptista and Géa, that meditate upon this modest paragraph, also the result of emotion, to consult their souls and their reasons for everything they do - and if they feel and conclude the same that I, do not delete these pages, which only bring the Good and the Information, besides being a milestone in the En Wiki, with this discussion in favor of Emotion and Friendship, and this does not violate the En Wiki Rules and the Reason. --187.13.81.213 (talk) 11:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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This page should not be speedy deleted because there is no commercial interest in it and because the book is extremelly relevant and have good references and sources. The following sources are not in the own page Géa:
This article shows the proof that the name Géa exists in printed books and also shows one of the starting points of the book Géa. The article also shows the dedicated work of the author Cláudio César Dias Baptista, his attention for the persons who payed nothing more than the cost of the artisanal printing of the technical book and his dedication for his friends. The article was posted by Professor Júlio Martins and the following link I extracted from his defense of page Cláudio César Dias Baptista against deletion in En Wiki: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqMDYzM2I1NjctMDEzNC00ZGY0LThmNjgtMTYyNWFiZGU2YmQy&hl=pt_BR
Please see also this articles from tradicional and well known audio magazines in Brazil. The articles are one of the proofs of the notability of Cláudio César Dias Baptista, author of Géa, here proposed for deletion.
From Backstage magazine, Nº8 (1995) - The hidden face of Mutantes (original title in portuguese: A Face oculta dos Mutantes)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqZTQyMTdkZGYtOWYxMy00ZjQ2LWI5MzUtMGRiZjdiMGQwMjRm&hl=pt_BR
From Backstage magazine, Nº 27 (1997) - An audio Luthier ( Orig. title in portuguese: Um luthier de áudio)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqNGZiYTkwYWMtNTQxYi00MGI5LTg5MDQtZmZlNzUxMGE4YmU4&hl=pt_BR
Música & tecnologia - ed. 28 [1991] - Cover history (Mr. Baptista appears with innovative 12 channel mixer with a size of a4 paper format totally conceived and designed in CADD).
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqNjM0YWEyMDQtNTVhOS00ODNhLWJkYzQtNjdiNDU1YzU2MzZj&hl=pt_BR -- --187.13.81.133 (talk) 12:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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This page should not be speedy deleted because the page is semi-protected and it's impossible to improve it, as it's suggested in the 'Rescue' tag, same page!
How to improve an article which is semi-protected?. There is a new tag in the page Géa proposing its rescue. That tag suggests to improve the article. When I was trying to include the new strong refferences I just find in the above entering from another IP, I discovered that the page cannot be edit; so, cannot be improved, at least by me, who am not member of En Wiki. What can I do to improve the page, which I think is very good, or what can En Wiki members with access to the page do to improve it with the above references? Thank you in advance for what you may do!187.13.107.90 (talk) 12:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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This page should not be speedy deleted because Claudio César is an author that is not supported by traditional publishers and has a great contribution to culture, philosophy and science. As a free encyclopedia, I understand Wikipedia as the right space for Géa at the www. Marcelo M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marmachster (talk • contribs) 14:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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Related to the AfD for the author Cláudio César Dias Baptista. This book does not appear to meet WP:N. While the Portuguese language sources are a little hard to sort out, none appear to be significant coverage. Daniel 15:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
The article Géa and the page Cláudio César Dias Baptista which En Wiki members considered at first good to be published here are suffering a political attack from the En Wiki member named Antiuser.Cláudio César Dias Baptista (talk) 16:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Comment: All I did was remove a piece of original research from the article. The matter is being discussed at WP:AN/I#WikiHounding / Article ownership issues / Possible IP socks. XXX antiuser eh? 16:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
delete It's very long, but that doesn't convey notability and not much else is seeming to. Besides, any book with a technicolour fractal on the cover and that isn't by Mandelbrot or similar should be burned. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Anyone who says that any book should be burned should be burned him/herself.187.14.113.31 (talk) 16:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Please cool down, Andy was making a joke. I'm sure he didn't mean that the book should actually be burned, just that the cover was not to his taste. --Daniel 16:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
No, I've read the whole article now. BURN! Andy Dingley (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
As you see, dear Daniel, Andy is insisting in his childishness. You have a clearer mind, please read again the article and consider the sources mentioned there as the importance they really have in Brazil and Portuguese language countries. The book is great, I've read it! You can read it too, in www.ccdb.gea.nom.br, as I see by your phrase 'Portuguese language sources are a little hard to sort out'; so, you can read Portuguese to judge the quality of these sources and, so, you can also read the book! If you like Portuguese language, you will love to read the book as I did and, perhaps, as myself, learn a lot of that great language - there is no better source today, and the book Géa includes a thousand page dictionary also delightful to people who love Portuguese language. If not by the language, the lexicon twice William Shakespeare, you may be perhaps enchanted with the histories inside the twelve volumes of the book. Regards187.14.112.27 (talk) 17:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Delete - On the Portuguese Wikipedia, there is an article for the author, but even there, not for the book. The sources are just not robust enough to support a separate article for the book. Also, the article text is really fails to establish why the book is notable, other than opinion and plot summary. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 01:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not delete - Let's be rational and cool, analyzing the page. Here are the positive points: The author invested more than ten years of his life in writting a book, moreover, a twelve 250 pages volume book. The author composed a 1,000 pages dictionary to complement the book. The author utilized a lexicon twice the William Shakespeare lexicon in his whole opera and six times the lexicon of Camões in "Os Lusíadas". The author created a new language with extra words, doesn't matter if it's named an 'extraterrestrial language' or not. The author illustrated himself the twelve volumes with more than 700 3D pictures, so, he had to learn 3D Computer Graphics to do these illustrations and also the thirteen covers for Géa. The author studied programming languages for computer to create himself the active pages in a site also created by himself to publish himself the book. The author applied his audio experience to perfection the sound of the reading. The author wrote also metrified poems inside the book. The author of Géa composed music for the book. The author proposed complete inventions in the books which could work if tested in laboratory. The author abandoned his profitable carreer in audio to write the book. The author created more than one thousand characters for the book. The description of these characters is interesting in the page Géa. The author presented a Theory, the 'biorrelatividade' in the book. The stories presented in the page are captivating for people who has the habit of reading books - at least they captivate myself. The quantity of references is more than enough and the quality of some of these references is unquestionable, as it's the case of the reporting in Jornal da Tarde, in the Revista Trip (very important in Brazil). And here are the negative points: The book is written in Portuguese, not yet translated to English; Brazil is not England nor USA; people who see the page Géa here in En Wiki can't easily judge the merit of the book because they can't read it. Now I ask myself: Are those negative poits really negative? Is not perhaps an injustice being done against a perhaps great work as it was done also against Don Quixote of Miguel de Cervantes and so many great books which were recognized long time after their writting? Or as the pictures of Vincent van Gogh, who sold only one of them during his life and which were recognized so late? If you search En Wiki for pages about other books, you will see that very few, if any, has the merits I mentioned above for the book Géa. So, I am forced to conclude that the cause of the deletion proposal is not the lack of importance of the opus, but another unknown cause, external to the page itself. And I don't want to be one of the persons who will be remembered as the ones who deleted the page of a book that shows everything to be perhaps recognized as a great work. I vote for the permanence of the page in En Géa in En Wiki.William T. Johannes (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
' The author invested more than ten years of his life in writting a book '
That's his problem. Did anyone pay heed to the end result? That's ours. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Note: I have blocked user:William T. Johannes as a checkuser-confirmed sockpuppet of user:Cláudio César Dias Baptista. JohnCD (talk) 19:17, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Let the page complete during its judgement! I noted that this Antiuser is removing important information from the page Géa during its period of judgement for deletion. That's not a good policy. I would kindly suggest that the page is semi-protected in its complete form during that period. How can people judge the merit of a page which content is being reduced? That procedure is not what I understand as Justice nor what I understand as En Wiki policy.187.13.17.74 (talk) 03:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not delete, please - I would ask them not delete nothing in the text. If it is a text that talks about a book or author is a way to have thorough research on it.I read the book Géa and I found everything the article written here on En Wiki informs thus removing some of the text as it would erase part of the book and the story of the author. Any of you ever read a book and thought the best part of the book, the pages are blank? That's what I imagine to deleting some of the text that refers to something, like we're erasing part of it. I ask you to please leave the full text of Géa, otherwise they will be erasing part of the book, not just the description, for future readers may not know what the book actually contains. 201.75.82.71 (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Delete per WP:N. The attempts to establish notability demonstrate the lack of it. NebY (talk) 16:56, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not delete. The attempts to estabilish notability demonstrate that it is real.187.13.68.58 (talk) 17:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC) — 187.13.68.58 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
WP:ITEXISTS is a very poor argument for keeping, and one that makes no demonstration of notability whatsoever. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 07:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not delete!. Well, that is a big disrespect to Brazilian literature. You guys are not talking about a mere book of 10 pages written "yesterday", but an entire collection, which took 10 years to writes it. It is a richly detailed stories, never told by no one else! GEA is a series of books with differentiated and intelligent language, which is not found in any other book in Brazil. I believe GEA is part of the highest Brazilian literature, it is very important to all Brazilians. Likalileal (talk) 14:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC) — Likalileal (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Delete: no indication that this topic meets WP:NBOOK. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 07:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not delete Aren't 'third party sources' the persons who support here the page Géa? Aren't these third party sources (those persons) presenting other third party sources, as is the case of Professor Júlio Martins Jcms1506br, with his brilliant and rich comments and references in the page Cláudio César Dias Baptista also proposed for deletion, where he present the origin of book Géa and the third party references about the quality of that book? The fact is that there is a cruzade against a notable Brazilian, moved by another Brazilian, Mr. Antiuser. The page Géa present much more than the minimum references required by En Wiki, and the majority of these references are strong and notable. There are pages in En Wiki about persons who did nothing for the world, as for example some that you may find via Baronetage of the United Kingdom page. And there are pages about musicians, for example Túlio Mourão who were not more than hired persons in the Os Mutantes group and with only one (!) reference, only one external link (!) who nobody proposed for deletion. Cláudio César Dias Baptista was the founder of Os Mutantes group, was the person because of whom that group reached international renown, the page of his name is extremelly complete in references... but is being proposed for deletion, not only the page of his name but also the page of his main work, Géa. Why? Without him, there would never exist Os Mutantes and much less Túlio Mourão would have a page here in En Wiki. I can see only one reason: Cyberbulling, envy, people trying to make name at the expense of his illustrious name. So, although this page is not a place for voting but for consensus, I 'vote' for do not delete. 187.13.81.213 (talk) 11:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not make pointless irrelevant rants: I did not mention "third party sources" and you made no response to my point that THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE TOPIC MEETS WP:NBOOKS. So your comment is a complete non sequitor (as well as raising no issue relevant to this AfD). HrafnTalkStalk(P) 12:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
For your meditation, Administrators of English Wikipedia. I know the En Wiki has rules. These rules are valuable and the fruit of long-term work of its members, without forgetting its founders, Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger. Herself Wikipedia and every page that it contains have behind its creation and its existence the human impulse to friendship, excitement, enthusiasm. Who would create a page to present something that is not emotional, not something to which this value (and value is the result of emotion, not only reason)? Who would create a virtual encyclopedia without this magnificent engine that is the emotion? So if there is a page Cláudio César Dias Baptista and a page Géa on En Wiki, that's because there is enough emotion in people who created those pages; It's because that emotion and reason and objectivity emerged and turned the pages into reality. For the same reason, emotion, friendship, people find themselves inducted as members of the En Wiki devoted admiration and respect for Cláudio César Dias Baptista and his work, both as a specialist in audio and as a writer of Géa and several other books. These people, in launching these pages and their reasons for their entries here to ask for not deletion are not a 'party' politics, have no commercial interest or personal, but have that emotion and friendship and the respect and admiration for the writer and the work. For all that I ask the respected members of the Administration of English Wikipedia, the ones who will reach the consensus on whether or not erase the pages Cláudio César Dias Baptista and Géa, that meditate upon this modest paragraph, also the result of emotion, to consult their souls and their reasons for everything they do - and if they feel and conclude the same that I, do not delete these pages, which only bring the Good and the Information, besides being a milestone in the En Wiki, with this discussion in favor of Emotion and Friendship, and this does not violate the En Wiki Rules and the Reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.81.213 (talk) 11:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC) — 187.13.81.213 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
This article shows the proof that the name Géa exists in printed books and also shows one of the starting points of the book Géa. The article also shows the dedicated work of the author Cláudio César Dias Baptista, his attention for the persons who payed nothing more than the cost of the artisanal printing of the technical book and his dedication for his friends. The article was posted by Professor Júlio Martins and the following link I extracted from his defense of page Cláudio César Dias Baptista against deletion in En Wiki: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqMDYzM2I1NjctMDEzNC00ZGY0LThmNjgtMTYyNWFiZGU2YmQy&hl=pt_BR
Please see also this articles from tradicional and well known audio magazines in Brazil. The articles are one of the proofs of the notability of Cláudio César Dias Baptista, author of Géa, here proposed for deletion.
From Backstage magazine, Nº8 (1995) - The hidden face of Mutantes (original title in portuguese: A Face oculta dos Mutantes)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqZTQyMTdkZGYtOWYxMy00ZjQ2LWI5MzUtMGRiZjdiMGQwMjRm&hl=pt_BR
From Backstage magazine, Nº 27 (1997) - An audio Luthier ( Orig. title in portuguese: Um luthier de áudio)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqNGZiYTkwYWMtNTQxYi00MGI5LTg5MDQtZmZlNzUxMGE4YmU4&hl=pt_BR
Música & tecnologia - ed. 28 [1991] - Cover history (Mr. Baptista appears with innovative 12 channel mixer with a size of a4 paper format totally conceived and designed in CADD).
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4Imqu0xjVLqNjM0YWEyMDQtNTVhOS00ODNhLWJkYzQtNjdiNDU1YzU2MzZj&hl=pt_BR -- 187.13.81.133 (talk) 12:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
How to improve an article which is semi-protected?. There is a new tag in the page Géa proposing its rescue. That tag suggests to improve the article. When I was trying to include the new strong refferences I just find in the above entering from another IP, I discovered that the page cannot be edit; so, cannot be improved, at least by me, who am not member of En Wiki. What can I do to improve the page, which I think is very good, or what can En Wiki members with access to the page do to improve it with the above references? Thank you in advance for what you may do! 187.13.107.90 (talk) 12:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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